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Mark Thiemens is dean of UC San Diego’s
Division of Physical Sciences. He’s also
a professor of chemistry and biochemistry
who could legitimately be called a “rocket
scientist.” He uses rockets to understand
the chemistry of the earth’s upper atmosphere
and studies microscopic particulates transported
globally in the atmosphere. This year,
he was elected to the National Academy
of Sciences, one of the highest honors
bestowed to U.S. scientists and engineers.
He also had a minor planet, or asteroid,
named for him in August, in honor of his
work with meteorites.
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How did it feel to find out you were going to have a minor planet named after you? |
Thiemens:
This was a complete surprise, as I did not know my name had been put forward. As someone who has been a space fanatic since I can remember, this was a really terrific surprise and honor. It was also nice because it is an honor that is permanent; your place has been carved out in the solar system. It still is hard to believe when going outside and looking up that there is an object in space that is named for you.
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This year you were elected to the National Academy of Sciences for your distinguished and continuing achievements in original research. What does this honor mean to you? |
Thiemens:
We don't work for awards and honors in science; it is really true that it is the excitement of discovery that pushes us along in our academic quests. That being said, it is also an honor to have your colleagues say that you have done extraordinarily well in this quest and to commend you for it. I am also pleased because universities are judged in part by the number of National Academy members they have, and in some way this contributes to UC San Diego's prominence. The National Academy of Sciences, which was created by Abraham Lincoln, is a significant part of U.S. scientific history. To be included as a member is indeed a fine honor.
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What originally spurred your interest in science and chemistry? |
Thiemens: Like many of my generation,
the space program captured my attention. I also got started early in science with an interest in fossils
and minerals. My father and mother took me at the age of seven or so to Washington University for regular
lectures by the geology faculty, which typically included weekend field trips. This was excellent exposure
for me and really made the excitement of science real for me, as well as the beginning of an early
association with universities. When I was 13, I obtained my amateur radio license, which required
learning Morse code, electronic theory, and passing an FCC exam. This required that I learn more
advanced science and mathematics than I would have otherwise learned at that age. My mother and father
were very supportive and helped guide me in this adventure. Some of the science we do today in fact
derives directly from this early exposure.
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Why is it so important to understand the chemistry of the Earth’s upper atmosphere? |
Thiemens: The atmosphere, Earth’s
surface, and oceans are a tightly coupled system. One of the least known portions of this is the Earth's
upper atmosphere, for the obvious reason of difficulty of measurement. We have been engaged in one of
the only rocket-borne sampling systems to achieve a much greater understanding than one would obtain from
satellite measurements. Some component of what we measure is in fact a sensitive measure of what is
happening at ground level; this provides a different and important perspective on the complex issue of
global environmental change.
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What conclusions have you reached through your research on atmospheric aerosols? |
Thiemens:
The simplest statement is what
we all know—the earth is a connected
system with no boundaries. Furthermore,
the issue and impact of aerosols extends
across many disciplines, with implications
for climate, human health, water resources,
biodiversity and economies. This is not
a conclusion necessarily, nor only my
discovery; it is, however, an indicator
of why this is an important research area
that transcends disciplines and hemispheres.
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Your recent research interests have taken you to the South Pole and the tropical rain forests of Peru and Ecuador. What kinds of questions or problems are you trying to address? |
Thiemens: In the case of the South Pole, the issue one typically runs across in interactions is that climate change is part of a natural cycle and not man-made. This is not necessarily a wrong argument and is worthy of a quantitative answer. The work at the South Pole brought back information that addresses, for the first time, a very high resolution time record and definition of what is natural and what isn't. This required a lot of snow excavation, which simply put, meant digging by hand tens of tons of snow. This was done at an altitude above 9,000 feet and the temperatures in the pits were about 55 degrees below; it was not a Club Med sort of trip.
In South America, it is observed that there are numerous extinctions occurring across the biota. We became interested because of interactions with UCSD alumni Jeffrey Kent, who has been extensively involved for decades as a curator of epiphytic plants, which are highly sensitive to atmospheric change. In collaboration with him, we are beginning to try to understand how long-range transport may be irreversibly changing one of the planets most sensitive and important regions.
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What do you think is the most serious environmental issue facing the human race today? |
Thiemens:
There is a rather long list here
which could be argued. Clearly, water
and food availability and negative changes
associated with them are on the top. From
my own viewpoint, the issue of aerosols
and their interactions with many facets
of society, such as health, climate, bio
diversity, agriculture, hydrology, and
visibility, is on the top of the list.
It is fortunate that UC San Diego has
a wonderful collection of premier faculty
who are engaged in these issues; there
is no place else that begins to come close
in terms of breadth and quality of faculty.
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What still boggles your mind about science? |
Thiemens:
Everything. The fact that there is no end to it and always something new to be
discovered. The fact that there is always some new project and some new discipline to
learn is simultaneously humbling and exciting. In spite of there being hundreds of years
of scientific discovery, there still are no limits to new and significant discoveries for
individuals to make.
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What goals do you still want to achieve? |
Thiemens:
I think more in terms of finding new science to accomplish rather than a formal goal.
I am presently involved with a proposal to fly a spacecraft to Mars, sample the atmosphere and
return. This has never been done for another planet and I would love to get this funded. I would
like to push forward our understanding of the global environmental connectivity such that we
might advance greater social change to achieve a better global environment. The past decades
research has actually advanced to a stage where this is not a pipe dream, but rather, an achievable
concept.
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